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14 years 8 months ago #777
by Chris Marti
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That sounds about right to me, Alex. You have my vote

14 years 8 months ago #778
by Jackson
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That sounds right to me too, Alex.
What I don't like about all this talk of "7" or more stages of enlightenment is that there are a lot of ontological assumptions at work. Specifically, these stages are somehow believed to exist in some way, as if they were inherent in the fabric of reality. The same goes for viewing the process as some kind of physio-energetic circuit, or as moving through real "strata" of mind. I have quickly moved away from any such view over the past year or so, as there are far too many assumptions involved regarding what exists or doesn't exist, which is pointless.
The very function of mind that builds maps is the great deceiver. It conjures up fiction, freezes around it, and thus distorts one's perception of how things really are. At some point it's good to give less energy to this activity of building, in a similar way as one refuses to give attention to a child acting out in a full-blown temper tantrum. Once they no longer get what they want (i.e. when the behavior is no longer reinforced), things change. Stop giving preference to models and they stop being such a big fucking deal.
In my practice, I'm enjoying the process of discovering the way experience is shaped by the myriad processes of mind, both healthy and unhealthy; adaptive and maladaptive; wise and unwise. Change is happening of its own accord as habit patterns are brought to light, which reveals just how unnecessary so many of them are. Slowly but surely, the reactive patterns release and things get better. Though, not in the way I always thought they would. It has so much more to do with being this human expression than I ever imagined.
What I don't like about all this talk of "7" or more stages of enlightenment is that there are a lot of ontological assumptions at work. Specifically, these stages are somehow believed to exist in some way, as if they were inherent in the fabric of reality. The same goes for viewing the process as some kind of physio-energetic circuit, or as moving through real "strata" of mind. I have quickly moved away from any such view over the past year or so, as there are far too many assumptions involved regarding what exists or doesn't exist, which is pointless.
The very function of mind that builds maps is the great deceiver. It conjures up fiction, freezes around it, and thus distorts one's perception of how things really are. At some point it's good to give less energy to this activity of building, in a similar way as one refuses to give attention to a child acting out in a full-blown temper tantrum. Once they no longer get what they want (i.e. when the behavior is no longer reinforced), things change. Stop giving preference to models and they stop being such a big fucking deal.
In my practice, I'm enjoying the process of discovering the way experience is shaped by the myriad processes of mind, both healthy and unhealthy; adaptive and maladaptive; wise and unwise. Change is happening of its own accord as habit patterns are brought to light, which reveals just how unnecessary so many of them are. Slowly but surely, the reactive patterns release and things get better. Though, not in the way I always thought they would. It has so much more to do with being this human expression than I ever imagined.
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14 years 8 months ago #779
by Dharma Comarade
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There is one major awakening to our true nature that has nothing to do with "recognizing awareness" or "completing a circuit", even if does feel like the end of the ride. We just wake up to what we have always been. And That is not awareness, not a psycho-physical circuit, not a direct or indirect mode, nor anything that can be described or discussed.
-Alex
The very function of mind that builds maps is the great deceiver. It conjures up fiction, freezes around it, and thus distorts one's perception of how things really are. At some point it's good to give less energy to this activity of building, in a similar way as one refuses to give attention to a child acting out in a full-blown temper tantrum. Once they no longer get what they want (i.e. when the behavior is no longer reinforced), things change. Stop giving preference to models and they stop being such a big fucking deal.
- Jackson
Palabra
looking at maps will get you lost
-- Monson
-Alex
The very function of mind that builds maps is the great deceiver. It conjures up fiction, freezes around it, and thus distorts one's perception of how things really are. At some point it's good to give less energy to this activity of building, in a similar way as one refuses to give attention to a child acting out in a full-blown temper tantrum. Once they no longer get what they want (i.e. when the behavior is no longer reinforced), things change. Stop giving preference to models and they stop being such a big fucking deal.
- Jackson
Palabra
looking at maps will get you lost
-- Monson
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14 years 8 months ago #780
by Kate Gowen
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palabra, palabra, palabra, amen!
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14 years 8 months ago #781
by Kate Gowen
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some Peter Kingsley interview links-- haven't listened yet, but thought I'd pass them along:
http://www.peterkingsley.org/cw3/Admin/images/GodSpeed.mp3
http://www.peterkingsley.org/cw3/Admin/images/GaryNull.mp3
http://www.peterkingsley.org/cw3/Admin/images/GodSpeed.mp3
http://www.peterkingsley.org/cw3/Admin/images/GaryNull.mp3