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Gary Weber on Robert Wright's Blogging Heads TV

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12 years 8 months ago #8840 by Chris Marti
Yes, Gary's notoriety is growing:

bloggingheads.tv/videos/14840

I have yet to listen to the entire 50 minute segment, but the parts I have listened to are interesting but typically Gary Weber.
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12 years 8 months ago #8845 by Mike LaTorra
Thanks for posting this interview. I'm listening to it now. I've heard other recorded talks with Gary Weber. before this, however, I didn't know that Robert Wright was into mediation and Buddhism.
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12 years 8 months ago - 12 years 8 months ago #8847 by Chris Marti
Mike, Wright has done quite a few lengthy interviews with Buddhist teachers like Sharon Salzburg and Joseph Goldstein. He's also interviewed philosophers like Daniel Dennett, scientists like Freeman Dyson and many others, all in pretty good depth. It's really great material. You can his MeaningofLife.tv website and all of its great content here:

meaningoflife.tv
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12 years 8 months ago #8851 by Russell
I am still so unsure of how I feel about Gary Weber. He obviously has some very true realization but, he also seems to think his way is the only way, which in turn is the opposite of how most awakened people I know feel. Maybe I am just reading him the wrong way. Ehh.
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12 years 8 months ago - 12 years 8 months ago #8857 by Chris Marti
I've pondered Gary Weber's experience a lot. I've had long conversations with people how know him, including both Folks, and while I am sure Gary is reporting his experience accurately there is a unique quality to it which I can't quite grasp. Russell, you make a really cogent point about this -- Gary isn't compassionless by any means from what I can tell but he has a starker view, a more binary view, of existence than most people with higher attainments, awake-ness, whatever you call it. It may be that Gary has a sort of rifle shot awakening. It may be that the practices of Advaita and Yoga that Gary uses produce what Gary got. I have no idea, but it is somewhat different than what many Buddhist masters report. Of course, the difference could be in the telling. Anyway, we should celebrate it because it illuminates our understanding of what is possible.
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12 years 8 months ago #8858 by Tom Otvos
I started watching this (and have yet to go past the first couple of minutes) but it sounded familiar, and realized I had heard him being interviewed on BG a little while back. I have heard the name many times, but never really looked into anything of what he was saying. Anyhow, I find this intriguing. Here is the BG link:

www.buddhistgeeks.com/2012/07/bg-260-enl...endless-enlargement/

-- tomo
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12 years 8 months ago #8859 by Tom Otvos

Chris Marti wrote: Anyway, we should celebrate it because it illuminates our understanding of what is possible.


That is part of what I find intriguing about his story...

-- tomo
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12 years 8 months ago #8862 by Chris Marti
Gary Weber is speaking at and attending BG2013, so we'll be able to hear him and to talk to him one on one, in person.
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12 years 8 months ago #8863 by Chris Marti
Here's an audio link of Kenneth Folk lecturing Nadav on the notion that what you practice leads to what you end up with. Until nadav goes uber-vipassana :P

bit.ly/11E0mKK

So Gary Weber would probably be considered a "specialist" in Kenneth's version of the universe.
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12 years 8 months ago - 12 years 8 months ago #8866 by Ona Kiser
I'd suggest that that what you practice may (surely does) contribute to what you end up with, but what you practice depends on your personality, life experience, your values, needs, priorities, "who you are" and so on, so fundamentally what "you end up with" is very much tied back to that. I think the distinction is important because it reflects this diversity of awakeness that we encounter as being rooted in our diversity as individual people, rather than as people who did/didn't do the right practice and therefore ended up with a shitter/superior awakening.

I find I do have more trouble "getting" some people's expressions of awakeness than others, but there's always people you don't "get," awakeness aside.

It's often really hard not to move from "not getting" to "something's wrong with them." Guilty of feeling this on occasion. But it's often undermined by being able to have private conversation with people. That clip of Kenneth, for example, is just a bizarre way to talk about awakening (for me). But I've had personal discussion with Kenneth about my practice in which I felt like we were totally on the same page and I really respect the guy's teaching. Bringing it back to Gary, I don't generally "get" his style or the things he emphasizes, but a private conversation might be a whole different thing.

Anyway. Thirty cents.
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12 years 8 months ago #8867 by Chris Marti
I notice that there are a few ways to talk about awakening and practice:

1. Wrapped in traditional concepts and language
2. Wrapped in scientific language using neuroscience and related terminology
3. Integral - you know, that guy Wilbur
4. In your own words
5. Other, whatever that is

FWIW, I'm a fan of number 4. I think Kenneth tends to use a combination of number 2 and number 4. The problem with number 4 is what you just said, Ona. People may not get what you're laying down because there is less shared terminology. Although when you and I talk about this stuff I don't think there's much of a disconnect.
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12 years 8 months ago #8869 by Ona Kiser
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