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10 years 5 months ago #98684
by Kate Gowen
link to a recent Steven Tainer talk was created by Kate Gowen
link to the semester archive-- subject this semester is "nature of mind"
media.berkeleymonastery.org/steven/2015.asp
the most recent talk is exemplary in its clarity and sublime ordinariness: media.berkeleymonastery.org/steven/2015/20150429.mp3
media.berkeleymonastery.org/steven/2015.asp
the most recent talk is exemplary in its clarity and sublime ordinariness: media.berkeleymonastery.org/steven/2015/20150429.mp3
10 years 5 months ago #98689
by Bill F
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I really like what I know about Steven Tainer, and I enjoyed the talk. I've looked for resources of his teachings in the past and aside from the few published works, I have been unable to find much. I emailed the folks at Berkely about past archived classes, but didn't get a response. Any ideas?
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10 years 5 months ago #98690
by Kate Gowen
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When I was attending his classes he was active with a very interesting group called the Kira Institute--
www.kira.org/
and there was a website called Ways of Knowing.
www.waysofknowing.net/
At one time there were archives going back a few years on the monastery website, but I only see the one semester there now.
At one time there were archives going back a few years on the monastery website, but I only see the one semester there now.
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10 years 5 months ago #98708
by Jake St. Onge
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Man, those old archived talks were an amazing resource. I wonder why they were taken down and whether they still exist somewhere? I have a handful of them on my old laptop but sadly I don't have complete semesters for whatever reason anymore.
I really resonate with Steven's approach. This semester's talks have been really helpful to my practice. I love how he so deftly interweaves doing-practices and temporal cultivation (cultivation that develops over time) with non-doing-practices that step back or zoom out from the whole whirl of temporality. Often these two are conceived as very separate but how he presents this-- which resonates with how a traditional Dzogchen teacher like ChNNR teaches it as far as I can tell-- is that non-doing and temporal development are actually intimately related on the path, and that the a-temporal can actually be the basis for a non-linear path of development.
I really resonate with Steven's approach. This semester's talks have been really helpful to my practice. I love how he so deftly interweaves doing-practices and temporal cultivation (cultivation that develops over time) with non-doing-practices that step back or zoom out from the whole whirl of temporality. Often these two are conceived as very separate but how he presents this-- which resonates with how a traditional Dzogchen teacher like ChNNR teaches it as far as I can tell-- is that non-doing and temporal development are actually intimately related on the path, and that the a-temporal can actually be the basis for a non-linear path of development.
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10 years 5 months ago #98711
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If only the current semester archive is being made available, it seems wise to download the lot asap. I know that's what I'm gonna do!
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10 years 5 months ago #98712
by Jake St. Onge
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Yep, totally on it haha!
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10 years 5 months ago #98713
by Kate Gowen
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In the course of securing this semester's talks, I heard ST refer to this text:
www.amazon.com/Vivid-Awareness-Instructi...1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Looks interesting, and Khenchen Thrangu is one of the most "user-friendly" lama/translators we still have with us.
Looks interesting, and Khenchen Thrangu is one of the most "user-friendly" lama/translators we still have with us.
10 years 5 months ago - 10 years 5 months ago #98715
by Bill F
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non-doing and temporal development are actually intimately related on the path, and that the a-temporal can actually be the basis for a non-linear path of development. Jake
Sounds good, but can you break it down for me, particularly the second half? Thanks.
Also, do you guys have a favorite of his works? I have his book on Taoism, but I haven't read "Time, Space, Knowledge".
Sounds good, but can you break it down for me, particularly the second half? Thanks.
Also, do you guys have a favorite of his works? I have his book on Taoism, but I haven't read "Time, Space, Knowledge".
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10 years 5 months ago #98717
by Kate Gowen
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Dragon's Play is inexhaustible-- I'll be reading it 'til I die. Haven't ventured much into T,S, & K... It was earlier in his life, written as a student of Tarthang Tulku.
10 years 5 months ago #98723
by Andy
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Holy Wow! Dragon's Play starts at $45 used at Amazon!
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10 years 5 months ago #98729
by Kate Gowen
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Try here--
www.dayuancircle.org/store/books/
$15; but that may change as supplies dwindle. Ming is the co-author; he died recently, and the book has been out of print for donkey's ages. Hence, the inflated price on Amazon.
$15; but that may change as supplies dwindle. Ming is the co-author; he died recently, and the book has been out of print for donkey's ages. Hence, the inflated price on Amazon.
10 years 5 months ago #98731
by Andy
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Thanks, Kate. Looks like it's out of stock. I'll keep checking, though.
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10 years 5 months ago #98751
by Jake St. Onge
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Bill, I will try to expand on that if you'd like-- in the midst of a busy weekend right now!
As for books, I really enjoyed the Time, Space, Knowledge books when I was a teenager. Later when I encountered Steven's talks I recognized the connection and Kate clued me in to the 'why' as Steven is credited as an editor I think rather than a writer. I've been meaning to seriously re-visit those works for several years and see how it relates to my experience and practice now.... And yeah, Dragon's Play is awesome and bottomless in my opinion
As for books, I really enjoyed the Time, Space, Knowledge books when I was a teenager. Later when I encountered Steven's talks I recognized the connection and Kate clued me in to the 'why' as Steven is credited as an editor I think rather than a writer. I've been meaning to seriously re-visit those works for several years and see how it relates to my experience and practice now.... And yeah, Dragon's Play is awesome and bottomless in my opinion
