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What is Mu? (koan)

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3 years 10 months ago #114931 by Anonymous1353
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I think this one is best suited for anyone rationalising too much as we simply have no clue what Mu is :D 

Sound of one hand , frog jumping into water, sound of a falling tree … etc all these lend themselves well to making all sorts of conclusions but Mu is the Mama of Koans as there is nothing we know of being the Mu :D 

Now dig into that one :D 


BTW, I don’t know the answer! 
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3 years 10 months ago - 3 years 10 months ago #114932 by Chris Marti
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The koan:

A pilgrim of the way asked the Grand Master Zhaozhou, "Does a dog have Buddha nature or not?" Zhaozhou said, "Mu."

EDIT: "Mu" in Japanese (Wu in Chinese) means "no" or "not."
Last edit: 3 years 10 months ago by Chris Marti.
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3 years 10 months ago #114935 by Tom Otvos
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It also means "nothing". Either way, it doesn't translate well into English because I believe the response is intended to mean "not-yes-not-no". Wikipedia has some interesting notes on the word, especially as it is used in popular culture:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(negative)

This is particularly pithy:

"Mu" may be used similarly to " N/A " or "not applicable," a term often used to indicate the question cannot be answered because the conditions of the question do not match the reality.


-- tomo
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3 years 10 months ago #114938 by Anonymous1353
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Oh ok! I will shut up now and retreat into my cave … 
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3 years 10 months ago #114941 by Ona Kiser
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3 years 10 months ago #114942 by Chris Marti
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... the question cannot be answered because the conditions of the question do not match the reality.

That's the case with this koan from a Mahayana (Zen) perspective. 
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3 years 10 months ago #114943 by Tom Otvos
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In my somewhat obsessive way with details, I have spent an inordinate amount of time trying to find out the correct pronunciation because, of course, non-Asian speakers are tempted to say "moo". As near as I can determine, it is more like "muh", in the same way we might say "meh". Or in Chinese, "wuh".

But I would love a native speaker to confirm/deny that.

-- tomo
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3 years 10 months ago #114944 by Ona Kiser
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3 years 10 months ago #114945 by Chris Marti
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Oh my!
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3 years 10 months ago #114946 by Ona Kiser
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It is interesting to hear the history, though. I'm just inthe mood to joke around a bit. 
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3 years 10 months ago #114947 by Shargrol
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Mu = Shyeah

as in...

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3 years 10 months ago #114948 by Anonymous1353
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I don’t know. 
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3 years 10 months ago #115071 by Michelle Stone
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Think it might be pronounced "Duh"?

(I know, late to the party as usual)
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3 years 10 months ago #115073 by Kalle Ylitalo
Replied by Kalle Ylitalo on topic What is Mu? (koan)
This reminds me, there's a flower and tearoom in Helsinki called The Mu Philosophy. It's very hard to tell what is going on in there from the outside, which kind of fits the name of the shop I think. The place is filled with plants and I guess there's a table or two somewhere in there. I guess it's a place for contemporary art as well. Very refreshing to see a shop, that seems so ambiguous, on a busy street in Helsinki. I'll have to visit and see what the Mu is going on in there.
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