Chakras and Insight Practice

From talking to people I gather my specific experiences of pretty much everything are a bit eccentric
But, yeah. It just occurred to me that this sense of re-wiring may well not be what it seems. For instance, it could be going on all the time and just surface in consciousness around these shifts without any causal relation. But then again I've been astounding myself lately at how unnecessary "knowing" and "understanding" are for wisdom/clarity to be present. Things happen. The less "I" try to interfere or manipulate experience, the more intelligence can shine through.


-jake

As Chris Marti likes to say "Ding ding ding ding ding!"

I agreed with the rewiring simply because that was exactly how I wrote about it in my journal. Things like "I feel like I'm being renovated" or "I feel like my brain is being rewired" exactly described the sensations and perceptions the energy movements sometimes produced.

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Yeah, I remember wondering how one feels sensations "in the brain" or "inside the head" because I thought I recall there aren't any nerves for that purpose there (don't they even do some brain surgery with people awake?). But it feels like it anyway. I would guess in part it can be related to changes in blood pressure or something like that. But who knows. Thoughts actually tickle sometimes. How the hell is that possible? Don't know, but there it is. A friend had an orgasm in his foot once while meditating. Strange things happen.

It's a shame that new-age woo-woo types have made such a claim on information about the 'subtle body' [channels, chakras, and the states associated with them]-- it tends to devalue them and scare off those who might do real research. Motoyama and a few others have been doing some research, but are not very widely known.

I have seen charts tying the 7 chakras to the major nerve plexi and/or neurotransmitter-producing glands; that, along with a very few personal experiences, convinces me that these are things that were more carefully studied in earlier times. And the only 'fault' with the research was that it involved a different vocabulary and view of what a human being is, physiologically. So we are handicapped in knowing where and how to look.

What we have left, in the Western knowledge tradition-- is the quasi-poetry of common speech: 'lump in the throat', 'heartbreak', 'pissed off', 'blood ran cold', etc.

I have seen charts tying the 7 chakras to the major nerve plexi and/or neurotransmitter-producing glands; that, along with a very few personal experiences, convinces me that these are things that were more carefully studied in earlier times. And the only 'fault' with the research was that it involved a different vocabulary and view of what a human being is, physiologically. So we are handicapped in knowing where and how to look.
What we have left, in the Western knowledge tradition-- is the quasi-poetry of common speech: 'lump in the throat', 'heartbreak', 'pissed off', 'blood ran cold', etc.


-kategowen

Well said Kate.

"So that's where toes come from!" Ha!



Ian lent me a book on Taoist meditation, which I believe was recommended to him by our very own Kate. The author speaks about the experience of a "legs orgasm," and that it's an important sign that one is meditating properly - at least up to a certain stage or level of skill.



Personally, I've experienced what I would consider that kind of pleasurable sensation in the feet and legs. But most of the energetic release experiences I encounter emanate more from above the neck, and sometimes throughout the whole body. I can't say I've ever experienced a meditation-induced orgasm located primarily in one foot. I imagine it would be pretty amusing, though!

Best I got was one in my third eye once. That left me baffled. How the hell do you have an orgasm in your forehead? But there it was. I've never had particularly notable pleasurable sensations in my feet or legs. Must be meditating all wrong.

"I've never had particularly notable pleasurable sensations in my feet or legs. Must be meditating all wrong." -Ona

This is disappointing news, Ona. I'm going to have to meet with Chris to formally discuss whether you should remain a member of our forum. For, the bylaws clearly state that each member must accurately report an experience of a legs orgasm, or face the possility of immediate expulsion and public ridicule.



[Kidding, of course.]

AHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Fine, I'll go start my own forum and you can't come over and play in my treehouse nya nya!

That's funny; I'm not much of a bliss type. Just don't tend to have experiences along that particular line. However, once as a teenager while walking through the woods--- I liked to walk quietly, looking around, listening, so I could see birds and animals and such-- a single thread of orgasmic pleasure started up in one of my feet, then the other one, then spread inch by inch, step by step, up through the ankles... legs... hips and pelvis... and so on up throughout my whole body. It culminated with my entire body literally vibrating with pure, simple, intense pleasure which finally crested and receded, eventually as if nothing had happened. Needless to say I was befuddled and impressed. I've never had an other experience of pleasure that intense, clean and balanced that I can remember.