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awakening: WTF?
6 years 9 months ago - 6 years 9 months ago #110228
by Noah
Replied by Noah on topic awakening: WTF?
Response to this thread in general (not as a specific counter to any point made, cause this is probably complementary)...
As a proud member of the "striving camp" I want to posit that causes lead to effects. Good practice leads to good results. Conscious cultivation of clarity on what those results are leads to happiness & satisfaction with practice. Stream entry events don't matter. What matters is:
-Awakening (baseline direct understanding of perceptual process)
-Therapy (emotional softening, mental hygeine & cognitive deconstruction of psychodynamics)
-Ego Development (greater breadth & depth of conceptual paradigms)
-Behavior Mod (the ability to choose one's words & actions appropriately)
Awakening doesn't matter that much more than the other 3 axes, in my opinion. Clearly it is possible to make consistent progress on all of these axes by trying hard & surrendering - in a balance over months & years - while being generally healthy, living a balanced lifestyle, regular formal meditation, off cushion mindfulness, talking to a teacher, having a supportive sangha, etc.
As a proud member of the "striving camp" I want to posit that causes lead to effects. Good practice leads to good results. Conscious cultivation of clarity on what those results are leads to happiness & satisfaction with practice. Stream entry events don't matter. What matters is:
-Awakening (baseline direct understanding of perceptual process)
-Therapy (emotional softening, mental hygeine & cognitive deconstruction of psychodynamics)
-Ego Development (greater breadth & depth of conceptual paradigms)
-Behavior Mod (the ability to choose one's words & actions appropriately)
Awakening doesn't matter that much more than the other 3 axes, in my opinion. Clearly it is possible to make consistent progress on all of these axes by trying hard & surrendering - in a balance over months & years - while being generally healthy, living a balanced lifestyle, regular formal meditation, off cushion mindfulness, talking to a teacher, having a supportive sangha, etc.
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6 years 9 months ago #110232
by Chris Marti
Replied by Chris Marti on topic awakening: WTF?
Basic sanity is the objective, to paraphrase my friend shargrol.