students and their concepts of learning

Today I read about two different theories of learning that people tend to divide into. The first is when they have a fixed idea about their ability - they are smart at that, they aren't smart at that, ect. "Entity theorists". The second are people who view their ability as process related, related to how hard they try, ext. "Incremental theorists".

Obviously, when it comes to insight practice, it seems like the first one of a fixed idea isn't a good one to have. That would probably slow down progress.

It also seems to me that if someone has that idea of learning, then real practice for them would address that basal assumption, that they 'can' or they 'can't'.

What do you guys think about that?

That seems reasonable, though impacted by myriad other factors. That is people in either category may be good/bad at following instructions, listening to criticism, responding to challenging situations, dealing with doubt, fear, anxiety, and so forth. I wouldn't use it to build a model on, but it does seem like a sensible broad observation.

Wouldn't a model be helpful though? It would probably be applied to people who have more difficulty with the path and would supply a more direct circuit breaker, even it that's uncomfortable. It's supposed to work, not be easy.

Weirdly the thinking goes goes that people in the fixed category are not good pretty much everything you listed, responding to challenging situations, dealing with doubt, fear and anxiety. So they need a tighter leash in some regard. Or rather a more specific, pointed guidance, or something

Go for it!

(That said, what about the existing models of personality types and learning styles, such as the Enneagram? I'm not personally a fan of it, just because I don't find that sort of thing useful, but many people find it very useful. Are you familiar with it? Shargrol should also weigh in - have you read his article on models (compares dozens of models - it's in the sidebar on the right side of the forum (eta: awakenetwork.org/magazine/shargrol/253 )

There are two types of people, people who categorize people and those who don't.

It seems like we all tend to do both of these things. When we are being lazy we can just write it off as not being good at something....when we like it and feel like trying we become "Incremental theorists".

I've been reading this- Nine Levels Of Increasing Embrace In Ego Development
Interesting enough.
~D

That's probably true for most people, but I think there are cases where it's very binary and very much in the fixed category, which are probably the most dire cases.

I think its reasonable to say that was the case w/ me. So teaching in these cases could entail a larger scope than on cushion practice, even if it is only showing respect and interest in other areas. In other words, treating everything as practice.